David Schmoeller was the director of the 1989 American horror movie Puppet Master, also known as The Puppet Master and Puppet Master. The screenplay of this movie is created by Charles Band and Kenneth J. Hall, and the film was made from the United States. In the film, Paul Le Mat, Irene Miracle, Matt Roe, and Kathryn O'Reilly play a group of psychics who are snubbed by a former coworker who utilizes an Egyptian incantation to bring figurines to life. The antagonist plays Kathryn O'Reilly.
The movie Puppet Master was supposed to debut in theaters for the first time in this summer in 1989 and was then scheduled to hit home video shelves at the end of September that same year. However, Band made the decision to release the film on direct-to-video on October 12, 1989, as they were of the view that this would be a more profitable business than the theatre market. It was greeted with a wide range of appreciation, and as consequence of its wide-ranging recognition the film is currently in the process of being turned into a series.Puppet Master Plot
In the Bodega Bay Hotel in California in the year 1939, an experienced marionette maker by the name Andre Toulon is putting the finishing touches on his most modern creation Jester. When two German agents arrived in the room Toulon was warned by Kahn who was a live marionette. Toulon takes the moveable figurines into a plastic box, and then hides them in an unnoticed nook of the wall. As the Nazis came in to storm the doors, Toulon took his own life.
At present, Neil Gallagher "contacts" four visionaries who live thousands of miles away from one another. The five of them have been friends for quite a while. Dana Hadley has a premonition of her own demise, while clairvoyant researchers Frank Forrester and Carissa Stamford have a weird relationship. Prof. Alex Whitaker has a hallucination where he is able to see Neil who is a parasite. Dana reveals to the others they have found Toulon's "hiding spot," and she requests an appointment to be held on the Bodega Bay Hotel, which is the place Neil lives. Toulon is in attendance at the meeting. They are stunned when they discover that not only do Neil have a wife whose name is Megan In addition, Neil himself has committed suicide in a suicide notepad and wrote notes of apology for her in his home prior to his suicide life. After confiding the deceased's remains to her family and friends to express their condolences Dana employs a pin to prove that Neil has indeed passed and gone to heaven.
After they have settled into their accommodation The psychics are left with contradicting mental images of Neil. Later at supper, Dana deliberately causes a disturbance to Megan, which causes Megan to leave the table in the same moment that another living marionette, Pinhead, appears from Neil's grave. Alex continues to follow closely behind Megan as she walks . He converses with her about their life together, as well as her husband's. Alex, the dream interpreter look into the future. Carissa psychometrist can detect the emotional history of an object by touching it; Dana who is the destiny teller, can find missing people and objects; and Carissa psychometrist can read dreams. While studying alchemy Neil came to the realization using Frank's help of the fact that Ancient Egyptians had created a method of reanimating lifeless figures This ability came to light later by Andre Toulon, the last authentic alchemist. This realization came about as an outcome of Neil's research into alchemy. As a result of the fact that Neil was not in contact with them for a certain time, Dana and the others realized that he had given up on them and just taken whatever it was Neil was seeking in his own way. This is why they have come to take it as a fact and settle the issue.
Theresa who is housekeeper responds to the call at night in an attempt at putting out the flame Dana's dreams come true when Pinhead assaults her with the stick. Megan is unconscious after discovering Gallagher's body in a chair; Alex tends to her while they re-intern the body inside the casket. Blade travels in Carissa and Frank's rooms, where they're engaged in violent sex. They also disturb Alex and Dana as they sleep. Although Alex and Dana's bedroom is secured by enchantment Blade proceeds through Carissa and Frank's bedroom. Tunneler along with the Leech Woman The Leech Woman and Tunneler are next figures that will appear. When Carissa takes a look at a sound coming from under the bed her body is struck by drill to the face from the Tunneler, and Frank is stripped of his blood by leeches sucked up via the Leech Woman who is pinned to the bed. It is also reported that the Leech Woman can also be killed by the drill that is aimed at her face. When Dana gets back to her bed after taking a walk, she finds the body of Gallagher sitting there, and Pinhead slaps her, breaking two of her arms during the process. Pinhead continues to pursue her, slashing and strangling her until she finally swats the attacker away, and then crawls into the elevator, from where Blade finishes her acquisition of fortune by cutting her throat.
After having more nightmares, Alex is awoken by Megan who presents him with Toulon's diary and explains that Neil has found Toulon's secret to animation. Alex soon realizes that Neil has discovered the key to reanimating Toulon. After Alex and her fellows spot Neil, they rush downstairs to escape, only to discover Dana, Frank, and Carissa dead in the dining room along with recently resurrected Neil present. He admits to having made an attempt to live in perpetuity, he once attempted suicide, before trying to bring his own body back to life using the help of Toulon's methods. He confesses in the past to killing Megan's parents. He then demonstrates his contempt for the dolls by violently throwing Jester. He's glad to have humans as subjects for his research, so he does not even care about dolls. As Neil observes, the other dolls surround him and Blade pins him down, and Tunneler cut from his legs. After that, Leech Woman regurgitates a leech in his mouth, and Pinhead fractures his neck. Neil keeps an eye on everything that's occur. The next day, Megan makes a final goodbye to Alex and when she gets to the second floor, she breathes life into Dana's stuffed dog, Leroy.
Puppet Master Cast
William Hickey brings these characters to life in the role actor of Puppet Master Toulon.
Alex Whitaker, portrayed by Paul Le Mat, is a professor in anthropology of Yale University who possesses the ability to look further into the past.
Irene Miracle gives life to the character Dana Hadley, a fairground psychic who specializes in the area of fortune telling and retrieval of stolen or lost property.
Neil Gallagher, who is depicted in the film by Jimmie F. Skaggs, is the primary antagonist of the movie and is also the "puppet master." He is the one who is ultimately responsible for the deaths of his former coworkers as well as his colleagues, at the hands from the puppets.
When her parents died, Megan Gallagher (Robin Frates) and later become Neil's spouse, acquired the Bodega Bay from them; it was in the Bodega Bay that she and Neil were first introduced to each other. The readings of psychics that are erotic is Frank Forrester's (Matt Roe) specialty for Pensa Research Inc. (PRI) and he's employed as a psychic researcher. Carissa is his wife.
Carissa Stamford (born in the year 1923) is psychometrist , who works on behalf of Pensa Research Inc (PRI) as Frank's assistant. Kathryn O'Reilly plays Carissa Stamford in the show. She is frequently spotted with people who have been victims of sexual abuse or partners who engaged to engage in personal conduct in the past, but she can also recreate the emotional story of any object by simply touching it. She often sees those who have been through sexual trauma.
Mews Carnival featured Barbara Crampton as Theresa The Gallaghers housekeeper.
David Boyd's portrayal as the role of Buddy in the movie
Peter Frankland is the actor who portrays Max.
Andrew Kimbrough, who plays Klaus The role was entrusted to Andrew Kimbrough. the part.
Puppet Master Puppets
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Puppet Master in video format Puppet Master was released by Paramount Home Video on October 12th, 1989. The motion movie was first made available for purchase on Disc by Full Moon Home Video on June 13th, 2000.
The Puppet Master was initially released by Wizard Entertainment on DVD in March of 2008, before being released as Blu-ray later in the following year. While initially released discs, Full Moon Productions also offered a remastered copy of the film.
The time has come to release the series. Echo Bridge Home Entertainment published "Killjoy and Puppet Master: The Complete Works" in 2014, there have been more episodes of both series. Killjoy along with the Puppet Master series. The new episodes have been released since the compilation's release.
On April 10 10, 2018, Full Moon published a limited-edition vintage Cassette compilation as well as Blu-ray disc. Both were on sale that same day. The Video compilation came out in a total of 3000 copies which included Charles Band personally autographing and counting the first 300 copies.
Puppet Master Reception
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According to the review collection website Rotten Tomatoes, the movie's score is of 43% approval, and was given an average weighted rating of 4/10 on the basis of the reviews of seven reviewers.
It was deemed "a unnecessary variation on the killer-doll design," According to TV Guide, and as consequently it didn't receive good scores.
The website dedicated to horror Dread Central rated the movie 3 out of 5 stars with praise for the production's standards but providing criticisms regarding the acting, the screenplay, and the first act. Reviewer arrives at the conclusion that "Puppet Master isn't what I would consider to be a superb movie but its heart is in the right place, and I've always been hugely a fan of the malevolent doll style of horror" and suggests that the film's flaws are largely excusable due to the reality that the main character is an actual Puppet Master. Although it has its faults, Puppet Master stands out as one of the most enjoyable movies from the "killing toy" genre of horror films "a commenter known as Wes R. from Oh the Horror.com stated.
Puppet Master Legacy
The success of the movie that is now seen as a masterpiece that will never be forgotten, provided the inspiration for the creation of a series which would last for many years. Puppet Master II (1990), Puppet Master 4 (1993), Puppet Master 5: The Closing Segment (1994), Curse of the Puppet Master (1998), and Puppet Master: The Legacy (2002) are the five films that were produced as a direct result of the success of the initial Puppet Master movie (2003).
In Toulon's Vengeance (1991) is the third installmentand, like Retro Puppet Master (1989) it functions as an early predecessor. The Toulon's Vengeance (1991) first came out in. (1999). A mysterious forerunner trilogy has made, which begins by the movie Puppet Master: Axis of Evil (2010) and then continuing with the sequels Axis Rising (2012) and Axis Termination (2014). (2017).
In the year 2020, the first book of the series titled Blade: The Iron Cross was released. The main character in the book was a mermaid named Blade. The year 2022 has been scheduled for the publication of the film version Doktor Death (Retro).
Puppet Master vs. Demonic Toys was initially broadcast through the Sci-Fi Channel in 2004. This show was the result of the merger of another Full Moon series called Demonic Toys.
Puppet Master Game
The month of September, 2021 was when Full Moon announced that they were collaborating along with an independent game development company "October Games" to create an officially licensed Puppet Master video game. The Puppet Master video game launched by Steam on March 1st, 2023, to many different evaluations.
Conversion to 3-D
In March 2009, the rumours began to spread that Band was considering shooting the movie in three dimensions.
However, not all the movies that Full Moon produced were clearly produced with a budget budget. They did their best to get the maximum value for the money available to them. We are now at the commencement of Puppet Master, a property that has given Full Moon lots money success.
The original movie was one of the Full Moon standard production that moved straight to video and was published in 1989. Since then , there's been at most 14 or 15 successors to the film. There's no reason to take any chances since the plot revolves around dolls waking up and sparking a horror flick. But, you may be pleasantly surprised by how deep the mythology goes even after this first film in the series.
It's possible that the fact that it created numerous successors could be a shock for you.
Puppet Master Trivia
Cindy Sorenson, a diminutive stuntwoman, was required to wear gloves that did not have fingers as well as sleeves for a cardigan during scenes in which she was supposed to be acting as the Pinhead's fist. This was done in order that it would appear that she was actually performing the act. Cindy said that the toughest part was having to transport the Pinhead marionette across her shoulders while pretending to be attacking it while having her head lower throughout the whole time.
Andre dies by shooting self in head using the silver-coated Smith & Wesson pistol.
Its rate of firing of it is nearly twice as fast as conventional revolvers.
Blade's outfit doesn't change to reflect the passing of the years or the new developments that happen in the movies that follow each other.
Based on our current knowledge, Blade is the only marionette to have ever been used on the title page of each in every Puppet Master home video release.
Bert Rosario was the one who supplied Blade the voice of Bert Rosario.
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The time Charles Band spent working at Empire Studios is the inspiration of his decision to perform under the stage moniker Puppet Master. He appeared in the film The Dungeonmaster (1984), which is also known as Ragewar, and he mentioned that many of his fans came to him to express their appreciation for the film. He stated that the movie was also referred to as Ragewar. When he decided to make an actual-life film He was reminded of the overwhelmingly positive reception he received for this film The Dungeonmaster, because he's always been fascinated with the idea that fictional objects could come to life. After some consideration it was decided that the title for the movie was ultimately determined that it should be Puppet Master.
The director of the initial movie, Charles Band, had plans of remaking the movie in 2010. Following the massive criticism of the project which led to its cancellation, the project was abandoned and, in its place, Puppet Master: Axis of Evil was developed (2010).
Blade the marionette sprints around at the beginning of the movie. He's clearly breathing and sounding exhausted, despite the fact that Blade doesn't have lungs (or any other internal organs). In addition, the viewer is able to hear puppets breathing, grunting and whimpering all through the course of the movie. But, none are able to directly communicate with one another.
In the film Puppet Master, the main character, Neil, is a marionette that is revived out of the grave.
In the scene where Blade is trying to scare a woman in the hotel, a theme made by David Schmoeller's Tourist Trap from 1979 can be heard playing in the background. This is one of the earliest scenes in the movie. This theme that is recurring, and is called "Davey's Waltz" can be heard in the score of Tourist Trap.
The premiere of Blade: The Iron Cross (2020), which starred the marionette for the very first appearance in his very first movie offshoot occurred in the year 2020.
In an interview with website for horror movies The Horror Trap in 1999 Director David Schmoeller disclosed that he did not have any further involvement in"Puppet Masters. "Puppet Master" series since he didn't want it to be discovered that someone different than the producer and Full Moon Boss Charles Band has created the name. This was one of the reasons that he decided to have no involvement in the series. The moment the news was announced regarding the debut "Puppet Master" picture would come out on DVD Schmoeller had never been approached regarding the possibility of a director's introduction for the disk. The same conversation also took place He also brought up the outstanding residuals owed to him by the Band.
In order to prevent the film from getting the "X" rating The blood that was shed during the finger-slicing scenes was colored green.
While Leech Woman "coughs" into the leech, observers get the perception that she has more mouth movement than she actually has because of the foam rubber construction of her cheeks. It appears as if the entire leech has emerged from Leech Woman's mouth, but actually there are only three quarters the mechanism that creates leech has been removed from the marionette in this stage. The camera is moved away to show the leech mechanism.
A significant part of the soundtrack is synthesizer-based renditions of the score composed by Pino D'Agostino for Tourist Trap (1979), a movie with comparable subjects on which the director David Schmoeller and producer Charles Band had previously collaborated. The movie also covers the same themes.
The early sketches of Charles Band featured a samurai marionette with six limbs and a gun attached to it. This (click now to view weblog) marionette was used as the inspiration to create the fictional character Six-Shooter, who first appears as a character in Puppet Master III: Toulon's Retribution. However, despite the fact that he was not included in the final edit of the film, he was (1991).
Following the film's original theatrical release in August 1989 as well as September 1989 release dates for home video were changed to 12 October 1989 as direct-to-video releases, the movie's producer, Charles Band, stated in an interview that he would earn more money from the direct-tovideo market than in cinema market. Due to this assertion the movie's original release dates were changed to October 12, 1989.
Puppet Master Spoilers
Andre Toulon spends the first scene of the film looking through his windows looking at an Asian marionette, which is later discovered to be real Burmese marionette that is staged called Zawgyi the magician of alchemical magic.
To masterfully manipulate the Blade marionette it required five Puppet Masters were required.
Within Bodega Bay there used to be a tiny hotel roughly the size of a refrigerator. After they found the ideal location, producers hung the model from the ceiling at an impressive level and utilized a range of different combinations of force perspectives to create the appearance like it was there on the set.The movie that Charles Band had made previously titled Dolls, which was about villainous puppets was the source of inspiration for this one (1986).
David Schmoeller chose to honor one of his personal heroes, Klaus Kinski, by basing the marionette Blade on the appearance of Kinski.
There's just five minutes to enjoy the figurines in their entirety.
The inquiries that follow might reveal important plot details.
In the time that passed between the premiere of the film and its sequel, both films Puppet Master: Axis of Evil (2010) and Puppet Master X: Axis Rising (2014) came out (2012).
William Hickey, who had been Paul Le Mat's acting professor before, happened to be in the same place in the same place while working as Le Mat.
Puppet Master Movie Review
The thirty-fifth or the fortieth movie about puppets, which "life" might not be interesting, but "Puppet Master" offers more than that. Five characters that take on characters of an elderly man's pals in this film aren't dolls but five distinct figures that were created with great care to fulfill the task of portraying those roles. Jester the solitary spectator who sits back and does nothing but watch, is one of the most fascinating marionettes because it is all he does is look. It's pretty cool to notice that when the character changes his facial expressions, his cranium actually does rotate because it is composed of three distinct pieces. This can be seen by observing it closely enough.
In the beginning of the story at the end of the century, nearly half the century has gone by since the dolls were believed to be "lost." This is why a group of astrologers is prompted to visit the motel in hoping to discover the dolls. There has never been anything quite like the bloodshed and brutality of the killings depicted in the movie. Even though these gadgets are creating mayhem in the hotel, they're not necessarily harmful in themselves. They are designed so that they can serve the owner, who will, in the end reap what he's put into it. This was the basis for a model that "Puppet Master II" continued to expand upon (a film that is passable however not as outstanding as the first).
This film is exceptional in every aspect in every aspect, from the cute puppets to the beautiful location of a former bed and breakfast at Bodega Bay (who also happen to be a fan of murdering other people). There's a lot of chatter going on online and it's okay. There's a little bit of insanity, comedy, sex that's borderline exaggerated (and quite bizarre) and even violence however there isn't any extreme gore. There's also a bit of mild humor (well there's some questionable scenes at the very end , which is just a bit disgusting).
One of the most captivating elements of the movie is its performance by Paul LeMat, who portrays Alex Whitaker. Paul LeMat is fantastic acting as the movie's arbitrator and also as the first and only clairvoyant with any genuine insights into what's happening in the life of the family. Unhappily, by the conclusion of all this, He falls victim to the wrong assumption.
If you loved this picture If you liked it, you might like Child's Play, Dolls, Cruel Toys or Dolly Dearest. All of these pictures feature dolls in one way or different forms. Even though "Puppet Master" isn't as sinister as the other examples but it is a good example of those pictures in which artificial objects come to life. Religion of Satan witchcraft or other aspects of the demonic world are not represented in this work in any way. Unquestionably highly successful!
Andre Toulon, played by William Hickey, was known as a "puppet master" in the 1930s. He brought life back to lifeless figures using old Egyptian techniques. However, when Nazis come looking for him then he is secretly hiding the miniatures so they will not be found. The year 1989 saw a group made up of spirits and magicians gather at his old residence, where they see the statues and find that they are quite violent and hostile. They also discover they were made by him. Additionally there is a chance that the recently released resident may not be completely gone.
Another picture from my childhood which, even though I'm an adult never ceases to give me anxiety. I had hoped that this would be one the top films of the kind that Full Moon has produced, but I found it to be so boring that it was the point where I fell asleep. The actor who was awarded a Golden Globe for his role in the role of Paul LeMat, Paul LeMat, had interesting tresses but performed poorly. Also, Barbara Crampton has a role in this episode (she appears as a carnival attendant).
The first hour and a half of the film is a drag because it focuses too much time on superfluous information and characters who aren't engaging. The subsequent fifteen minutes bring about a modest improvement in the overall quality of the movie. The second part of the movie is more engaging, however the first half is so boring, it's hard to make up with. It's hard to believe there are only eight or nine more scenes to this movie. Despite the fact that I believe Charles Band (the film's director) and Ken Hall (the movie's writer) are both amazing people, I was extremely dismayed to find out that this movie was not even close to being as good that I had imagined it to be. The main reason is that the characters aren't given enough screen time in the show. Should I feel animosity towards the director David Schmoeller, whose previous movie, "Crawlspace," was considerably better than this?
Some of them, such as Jester seems to serve any purpose even in the film, while others, like Blade are in need of more time with the camera. I discovered Leech Woman to be both amusing and somewhat disgusting, although I'll admit that I'm curious about the frequency she's valuable. Even though I found and both "Tunneler" as well as "Pinhead" to be interesting However, I don't want to think there should have been a lot more of them on the screen. It was ineffective to worry about individuals. There's a steamy romance scene but it doesn't much contribute to character development.
Although"No Strings "No Strings Attached" program is just seven minutes, we are able the pleasure of hearing from marionette expert David Allen, Paul LeMat, Charles Band, and David Schmoeller in that short duration. With a time of seven minutes, I would guess that you can't really expect much from it however it doesn't reveal very much. You'll never get any enough Charlie Band saying "dude," and his 5-minute introduction can be more insightful than the rest of the program put together. In the past, the film has been updated and improved, but the storyline hasn't been improved in any way as a result of these improvements.
The people who are interested keeping the secret that surrounds "Puppet Master" may find it advantageous to steer clear of viewing this photograph. While the movie is not even close to being anything but a sham, it's far from being more groundbreaking than the story will have you believe it is. The cheesy music performed by Richard Band does not make the film any better. This movie could've been so much better if it was adapted in a way that stayed faithful to the spirit of Full Moon. The movie was able to be the best of its kind with a amount of trimming, however it remained the same effects. My history is gone for good, scattered all over the countryside with the rest of my recollections like the dust on an old farm tractor.
The film has some unbelievable moments but there are also problems in the plot that are never resolved. There are other issues that are never discussed. In the beginning of the movie, there is an episode in which one miniature could be seen in distress, running around. It's impossible to imagine how such a thing could happen given his massive build. Toulon's suicide is a mystery on the reason behind his choice; all remains to speculate. The fact that the sculptures have returned after being in obscurity for more than a century is peculiar. Is it accurate that for the first time Neil "let loose" the members of the band? The same is true for the band members. this is the only explanation that makes sense at the moment.
The figurines are carefully crafted but they do not contain any truly terrifying features. The picture itself doesn't contain anything that can be considered as frightening or terrifying. In the 1980s the decade of 1980, there was a flood of pictures like this that were released to the public, and this one is pure deadly pleasure. It's not the worst thing ever but it was certainly not the greatest thing that ever happened. But it was acknowledged throughout history as a work of art. Sure, I believe this is true for me too.
The first (and the very beginning) effort from Full Moon on the subject of homicidal dolls comes hot following the success of "Dolls (1987) in addition to Child's Play (1988), and it is efficiently supplied for a low-budget production but there is nothing that can be considered particularly disturbing that happens. In complete contrast to your expectations, the picture did end to become a famous object within its particular field, which in turn resulted in the creation of a number of spinoffs.
The film has a clean modern, professional look. David Allen's collection, which includes puppets, is artistically endearing; however, the mystery element is based on isn't explored enough. Instead than that, it's a story simply comprises a set of set pieces where people are killed in horrific, bizarre ways. The style of the movie is clean and professional, as is David Allen's assortment puppets is artistically endearing. There are too many options to be explored but not all of them are pursued to their most logical to their logical. The subsequent generations however could continue the pattern. David Schmoeller's capable direction ensures that the thrilling assault sequences are presented as they were intended, as well as that the characters achieve the effect they were designed to convey. Slow paces aren't beneficial, but some of the scenes and images are eerie and sinisterly contorted as well as the overall tone of the plot is unusual and creepy. It wasn't necessary for it to be lightning fast, but the sprawling, groaning hotel's vibrant Gothic atmosphere could have benefited from improved management. The inexhaustible and titillating score that Richard Brands composed for this movie is both the film's major driving force and its most memorable aspect. It hilariously sets the tone of the film by creating a strange, hallucinatory atmosphere and serves as one of the primary elements of the movie. The dolls are very effective when utilized as stop-motion animators and as surprises Puppet Masters, and when using rod marionette designs in action. Irene Miracle, who displays the most hilarious of vicious turns, is one of the famous actors whose performances help elevate the material. Other well-known actors whose performances help elevate the material include Paul LeMat, William Hickey as well as others. Alongside that, Barbara Crampton makes a fantastic performance.
Another person claimed the film it is considered to be a classic and has spawned an extensive movie that will create another progeny by the year 2018 and that is generating some discussion regarding a delayed Cultclassic. This movie also spawned another long-running series of films that will produce yet another progeny in 2018. I can see why people might think that monotonous is an appropriate choice. And this is especially true if would like to watch the movie which has the R rating.
The unrated version, which differs from the rated version in certain areas and in a greater degree in others (nudity however, it also contains violence). In spite of this the first few minutes remind you of an unrealized scene in a film packed with bizarre moments. It takes the movie close to ten minutes before it gets back on track However, once it does then everything returns to normal. However, the conventional storyline as well as the errors in reasoning are evident with this particular argument. Because sentient Puppets already exist so there's not an obligation to employ the power of logic. It is up to you to determine if it's acceptable or good rather than simply terrible that someone doesn't call for help and allowing it to be played out as a "joke" during the parasite scenario, for example. If you decide that you think it's acceptable instead of just plain awful, the choice is yours.
My opinion is that the performance involving the puppets is especially effective. Or the effects in general which is especially impressive when you consider the fact that this movie was created at a very low cost in the 1980s. If you like activities similar to these, then certainly give this a try!